VW: When you studied at Capilano [University], you worked primarily with weaving… I think you already basically answered this, but, at this point would you say, not that you’re done with weaving, but is this something that you’ve moved on from or is it still a fundamental part of your work right now?
SM: The thing with weaving is that I found a way in which I can… relax, and think, and meditate through it. So like, when I stop weaving, my process in any other thing that I’m doing gets… almost damaged. I don’t know, like, I need to be constantly weaving and doing a repetitive task, which helps me to develop my other concepts and other things. While I’m weaving, I’m thinking about what I’m gonna write, on the next Young Braised show, or the next… Everything happens, it’s part of my process, it’s part of my being, a little bit, where I can disconnect with everything else and I can just be. My partner Jaymes, he meditates, and he’s like, “Well, you have a mantra,” and weaving, the sound, the repetition, is kind of that. So, more so than just my practice, it’s just part of my life now, a little bit. Like, I weave for an artist, and that’s how I live. New music and sound, putting up shows, and having a label don’t really pay the bills, so I have to weave for an artist. That’s what’s pretty much done it for the last two years, since I graduated from Emily Carr.
VW: That seems interesting, how it’s morphed from your, you know, primary artistic approach to sort of a therapy and a bread-winner at the same time.
SM: Yeah, exactly. It’s crazy. And who would have thought – weaving? Yeah, I’m a weaver, I’m a professional weaver [laughs].
VW: “I’ve gotta make some cash. I gotta weave.”
SM: Yeah, exactly. It’s great. I love it. I love weaving.
VW: So you’re performing at the New Forms Festival this year with rapper Young Braised. How did this collaboration come about?
SM: Well, he’s my fiancé.
VW: Oh, okay. Well there we go.
SM: Yeah. It was very organic. So I have that [Emily Carr President’s] Media Award also, and it’s really funny, ’cause the two awards that I have are almost the spectrum of my practice, which I think are pretty much the same thing. I love programming and coding, and even music, everything is so together. Like, the loom was the first computer, so media and weaving has always been kind of the same thing for me. But with Jaymes, he thinks that rap shows can be more than just that, so we just started trying out things. He would be like, “Oh, I wish I could blah blah blah,” and I’m like, “Okay, I can do that,” and we’d just go on stage. And then I’d be like, “Oh, what if we have this projection of yourself onto yourself, so we can just separate the spectator, blah blah blah,” you know what I mean? Just really evolving ideas through… just being with each other, really.
It just started by us meeting, the collaboration. He’s always kind of playing around with what is hip-hop and rap music, and what can you get away with rapping on and stuff like that. So introducing new unstructured sounds to his music has also been something very, very organic that just happens at home. We’ve been travelling a lot together, spending a lot of time together.